HomeMy WebLinkAbout21.09.09 - Minutes, Emergency Services Advisory CouncilSER V, Y
WASHINGTON
COUNTY, MD
REGULAR MEETING (Virtual)
Emergency Services Advisory Council
Washington County, Maryland
Date: Thursday, September 9, 2021
Attending: R. David Hays, Director, Emergency Services, Ex -Officio
Dale Fishack, President, WCVFRA, Ex -Officio
Kingsley Poole, Chairman, Citizen -at -Large
Dick Hopkins, Co -Chairman, WCVFRA
Ron Horn, Citizen -at -Large
Roger Otzelberger, Jr., WCVFRA
Gary Farrell, President, Funkstown FD, WCVFRA
Bonnie Keltner, Administrative Assistant
Guests: Randy Wagner, County Commissioner
Absent: Tim Ammons, Citizen -at -Large
Dwayne Lunsford, Citizen -at -Large
Joe Kroboth, Citizen -at -Large
Scott Buskirk, Citizen -at -Large
CALL TO ORDER:
• Chairman Poole called the meeting to order at 7:10 pm.
Minutes:
MOTION: On a motion by Dick Hopkins and seconded by Ron Horn, the ESAC
members approved the minutes from the February 11 & June 17, 2021, meetings as
presented. CARRIED
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Old Business:
Fite Company Audits Update — Dir. Hays
• Dir. Hays reported that there has not been a lot of feedback from the auditors. He said
that he understands after receiving the information today since they are in the final phases
of the project. To quote Jack Ragan, project lead "the level of compliance with the data
requests has been outstanding and we have relatively few outstanding items. We're in
the process of finalizing our field work and should be issuing a draft statement report for
you in the next week or two." It looks like probably this time next month we hopefully
will have some kind of draft to look at. Dir. Hays advised that he will have to get
direction from Administrator John Martirano whether it can come to this committee
before the commissioners see it. Most likely, Dir. Hays, Sara Greaves, and John
Martirano will see the document first.
• Chairman Poole asked if the companies that had problems with the audits have been
resolved and did they cooperate?
Dir. Hays said yes and was able to speak to the leadership of the companies. He advised
that he personally reached out to Scott Draper, CPA, and has been working directly with
them.
Gary Farrell asked if the audits were only to look for fraud or if there is something else?
Are they looking for expenses that don't need to be there or better ways for the fire
companies to spend their money? Dir. Hays answered that obviously fraud is on the top
of the list. The second reason is best practices help eliminate the opportunity for fraud
because that reduces the opportunity for it to occur. Dir. Hays indicated that they may
recommend some better practices in how they reconcile their books and report to their
governing bodies, not the ESAC, but their membership. The other issue is the companies
raising money and sending people on extravagant trips. There are two different phases in
this process: 1) the audit - that is looking for best practices — are the right kind of controls
in place — are there two signers on every check — does the same person handle the money
coming in that handles the money going out with no one else is seeing it? That's the fraud
side of it. 2) the other side is agreed upon procedures, and Dir. Hays believes that is the
best position for ESAC and the county. He believes Sara would agree with that position.
That is where samples are being taken of 10% of expenses under $1,000 and random
samples of 10% of expenses over $1,000. That is where the highest probability for
improper purchases to be made.
Gary also asked if there will be some type of standardization for the companies? Will all
the companies be required to have the same practices in place? Is there something like
this coming in the future or will it be recommendations for companies to follow county
wide?
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Dir. Hays answered that he believes there will be individual recommendations. He is not
sure that we are harnessed strong enough to be able to handle getting those standardized
processes in place. He also noted that the departments may not be harnessed strong
enough to do that.
New Business:
Director's Report — Director Dave Hays
• COVID — Dir. Hays indicated that DES will follow county leadership with consultation
from Emergency Management and the Health Dept. on what our future posture will be.
Also, Emergency Management would be the coordinating agency for a county wide
finance package as well as any changes or modifications of our posture.
Dir. Hays reported they are still working to finalize the firefighter hiring for the second
recruit class. That will consist of 10 firefighters and two firefighter paramedic captains.
There has not been a start date established; they are still trying to work through that.
Based on what they are seeing in the applications and certification documents, it is likely
their training will include a full Firefighter II, pumps, hazmat ops, & EVOC certification
classes with a heavier emphasis on the basic firefighter evolutions. While this group
doesn't seem to have quite the credentials that the first pool had, they look like they are in
pretty good shape.
The public safety training center is all but under roof and construction is going along very
well. They are ahead of schedule, and we believe that around February 2022 we may
have the building in our hands. We already briefed to the CIP project for the five -story
training tower burn building and the design and planning is now underway with that and
the site visits occurring later this month.
• Volunteer incentives — Dir. Hays said he talked with the volunteer coordinator, Oley
Griffith, and he has been speaking with Rick Hemphill. The Association is seeing a
significant increase in participation from the volunteers. The LOSAP coordinators are
inundated with work because of so many people participating.
• Dir. Hays discussed the stats he sent to the council members.
• Dir. Hays advised they were successful in budgeting for three new safety officer vehicles.
The Association has taken delivery of these.
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Personal Accountability System — Dir. Hays noted that this has been discussed for
probably two years and even more after the firefighter was injured and how there really
wasn't a personal accountability program being used on that fire scene. A decision was
made to push the issue to get the Association to bring this to a committee. It was noted
that Leitersburg is piloting the passport system and Shaipsburg is currently using it. HFD
uses a very close version of it. Two weeks ago, at the chiefs' committee, they agreed to
move it forward. Dale will work it through the Association for approval, but the plan is
to implement that program Dec. lst of this year.
WCVFRA Report — President Dale Fishack
• Volunteer incentives - Dale had asked Rick Hemphill to put some numbers together to
give out to the commissioners of what the increase was. It has taken off; it is making a
difference and he believes the results we want to see are being produced. It truly is a
good recruitment tool because it is instant gratification to anyone that you're trying to sell
the program to.
• The only issue the Association has outstanding is a struggle with getting officer
documentation in. They are working through that and should have it resolved before the
next Association meeting.
_What is expected of this group? Advise, consent? Chairman Poole & Co -Chair Hopkins
• Chairman Poole asked the question "what is expected of this group" to Commissioner
Wagner? Commissioner Wagner reminded Kingsley and Dick that they were to come in
and get on the agenda to talk this out. Commissioner Wagner said the ESAC needs to
have a session with the commissioners and get their direction. Chairman Poole asked
Commissioner Wagner if this meeting could be in private session and Commissioner
Wagner said he did not think so, but he did say to do a format on what the council
envisions their mission is.
President Fishack said that the council needs to have some type of deliverables and he
feels the council has not had any. He could only think of one time that the council made
a decision about SCBA and we were going to move forward with one platform. President
Fishack said that if you present it the right way, you might be able to go in closed session
if you would do it as a counseling session with the chair and co-chair. Commissioner
Wagner said to let legal and the administrator figure out how we can make it a closed
session. Do we need an outline of something instead of just going in and having a hash
session?
• Dir. Hays said that gives John Martirano and Kirk Downey the ability to see what is to be
discussed and then, hopefully, to qualify for a closed session. He believes you could go
in the meeting with some recommendations on what you think you should be, as a
committee, that would be your first start.
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• Co -Chair Hopkins said that the situation has changed with the hiring of these firefighters
and assigned out to different locations, so we're looking at how are we going to function
in the future with this system. It is important to look at that now and it could be
something we can build on.
• Dir. Hays commented that we need a formal platform that says those things come here
and then where do they go. What does the committee do and what's its involvement? It
doesn't have to be detailed.
• President Fishack said that our first step isn't to go to the commissioners, but the first
step should be meeting with John Martirano, County Administrator and for Kingsley,
Dick, Dir. Hays, and myself to sit down and talk with the Administrator and look to him
for direction.
• Chairman Poole will try and set up a meeting with the parties just mentioned. Ron Horn
asked if the members could give some input for the meeting.
Adiournment
• MOTION: With no other business brought forward, a motion was made by Dick
Hopkins and seconded by Ron Horn to adjourn the meeting at 8:00pm. CARRIED.
Next meeting:
• - November -A 2021, 7pm
• Location: Downstairs Training Room at DES
Respectfully submitted by,
Bonnie Keltner, Administrative Assistant
Washington County Div. of Emergency Services,
Kingsley Poole, ESAC Chairman, &
Richard Hopkins, ESAC Co -Chair
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